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[2.1] Multis incommodis et magnis occurrimus, cum etatis nostre negotia stili officio perhennamus.

rubr. in Ad tantum       stili officio om. W1      stili] tali M1      magnis] non add. perp. Meisenzahl

[2.2] Innotescat ergo presentibus ac futuris, quod ego P. de tali loco terram meam, quam habeo in tali loco, invadiavi G. de tali loco pro centum solidis Pictavensis monete pactionem talem cum eo faciens, quod si prius moneta ceciderit, qua solvantur hii centum solidi, cum prefatam terram redimero vel heredes mei, si prius decessero, tunc ad illam valentiam reddatur pecunia, quam nunc habet.

ego] etc. add. O et expl      .P.] .D. W4 AM1 .B. E      quam om. W2 L W4 AEM1      in (de L) tali loco] iuxta talem locum W4 AM1 om. E qui sic dicitur add. A      Pictaviensis (talis W1L) monete] Parisiensium W4 AEM1      faciens] habitam W1      qua legi] quam codd      quam--decessero om. L      redimero (redemero W1)] redimam W4 M1      valentiam] valens L      reddatur] reddetur A      quam nunc habet] quam prius habuit cum accepi E

[2.3] Cambiuntur autem ad Andegavenses denarios Pictavini denarii tali modo: pro duobus denariis Pictavinis dantur tres Andegavenses.2

Cambiuntur--Andegavenses om. W4 AEM1      Cambiuntur] Cambiunt L      autem] enim L W1      ad om. L      denariis Pictavinis W2] om. W1 LW4 AEM1

[2.4] Quod teneri faciant hoc vadimonium et nullus calumpnia perturbari permittant, fratres mei B., C., D. sacramento fidei se ligaverunt.

Quod] pretaxatum prem. E      teneri] pactum teneant et E      faciant...permittant] faciat...permittat A      vadimonium] vadium M1      ligaverunt] iuraverunt A promiserunt E

[2.5] Insuper miles quidam G. nomine, de cuius feodo terra manat, consentionem suam apposuit et presentem cartam sigilli sui munimine roboravit.

feodo terra] feodores E      manat (manet L) W2] movet A movebat E      consentionem] confessionem L concensionem AM1      apposuit] adhibuit AE      roboravit: confirmavit A confirmavit et prem. W2 communivit etc. E et expl. Huius rei testes sunt .A. B. C. add.W4 AM1

[2.6] Actum etc.

Actum etc. om. A

1 Mortgage of 100 solidi on a piece of land (ed. MEISENZAHL 80+-81+, Agen no. 50).

2 No exchange rate between the money of Anjou and Poitou is given in PETER SPUFFORD Handbook of medieval exchanges (London 1986), who does not employ the evidence of Wertbeständigkeit clauses from charters. As opposed to the 2:3 rate given in this model charter, one may interpolate an exchange rate 2 s. Angevin = 2 s. 3 d. Poitvin (or 2:2.3) using as intermediaries the thirteenth century rates SPUFFORD gives for Angevin-Parisian (p. 194), Parisian-Tournais (p. 167), and Tournais-Poitvin (p. 182) coinages.

ARRANDON, JEAN-NOEL and DUMAS, FRANÇOIS Le titre et le poids de fin des monnaies sous le regne de Philippe Auguste (1180-1223) Cahiers Ernest-Babelon 1 (Paris:CNRS, 1982) see pp. 23-28
ISSON, THOMAS C. Conservation of Coinage: Monetary Exploitation and its Restrain in France, Catalonia and Aragon, c.1000-1225 AD (Oxford, 1979)

Subject: RE: Query
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 97 09:51:49
From: "Alan M. Stahl" <STAHL@amnumsoc.org>
To: "Steven M. Wight" <swight@loop.com>

Dr. Wight:

        I'm afraid there are no easy answers or quick references for your questions. Spufford's Manual in its printed form (an enlarged version exists on CD, which I have but have not yet tried to use, and maybe also still online -- I can give further info if you wish) is mainly focussed on commercial documents and coinages. Thus whenever possible, things are expressed in terms of florins or earlier trade coins such as sterling and provinois. It is also based exclusively on published sources, though the online form did accept data from manuscripts. The kind of charter clauses you're talking about are more theoretical than actual exchange rates (especially in the case of models), but no less reliable in general than the kinds of exchange rates Spufford used which conceal interest. I would caution
you against using 13th century quotes to explain 12th century equivalences (the rates changed considerably over time, especially once the Capetians began regulating seigneurial coinages) and not to confuse the seigneurial and then royal coinage of Tours (tournois) with that of Tournai.

        As far as the specifics, I haven't found a direct link of the coinages of Angers and Poitou, and both were subject to mutations in the centuries of their issue. The best summary of conditions for French seigneurial coinages in the late twelfth century is Franc,oise Dumas and Jean-Noel Barrandon, _Le titre et le poids de fin des monnaies sous le re`gne de Philippe Auguste (1180-1223)_, Cahiers Ernest-Babelon 1 (Paris:CNRS, 1982), where the documentary sources for comparative values are compared with the results of physical analysis of surviving coins. A document of 1186 links the coinages of Angouleme, Poitiers and Limoges in parity to each other, and several link that of Angers in parity with Tours and Guingamp (Brittany), but their are no direct or even easy indirect links between Poitiers and Angers (pp. 23-28). As illustrated in the map on p. 56, Poitiers was on the 4d12gr standard (i.e. 4/12ths plus 12/24ths of a 12th or 37.5% silver), but Limoges was slightly higher and Angouleme could be lower; while Angers was on a 4d
standard (33% fine) as were Tours and Guingamp. Of course the value of a single penny (as well as a sou of 12 pennies and a livre of 240) depended on the weight (taille) as well as alloy (loi). Twelfth-century France was a world of debased and (occasionally) restored competing currencies, so relationships between any two coins may not have lasted long -- hence the provisional clauses you get in charters. A good overview of the politics involved in all of this is in Thomas C. Bisson, _Conservation of Coinage: Monetary Exploitation and its Restrain in France, Catalonia and Aragon, c.1000-1225 AD_ (Oxford, 1979).

        I hope this reply at least helps with some of the problems involved, if not really answering any of the questions. Please keep in touch if you wish to continue this conversation.

Alan Stahl

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